GRR Editor Alex Goff caught up with USA Men's 15s Head Coach Scott Lawrence in a chilly Spartanburg, SC Sunday to discuss several topics.

In this latest RuggaMatrix America podcast (which can be absorbed both in just audio or video and audio), Lawrence speaks with Goff about the high-performance collegiate teams, the push to get top players more meaningful minutes, the development of the CRAA All American program, and the 2024 Eagles.

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This is a good insight into what Lawrence is thinking away from the "we've got a game this weekend" cycle.

But it's also worth considering this, and we mention it in the Podcast. The Eagles used 47 players (by our count) in nine test matches this year. Among those 47 players, 17 were debutants (again, by our count). Those are astonishing figures. It's not what Lawrence wants long-term—he wants a unified team that learns to play together—but it's necessary right now.